Episode #156: How to Consistently Step Outside Your Comfort Zone

With Andy Molinsky, Ph.D.

If you’ve ever heard phrases like, “the ‘magic’ is in the comfort zone” and others like it, then you’ve been exposed to some of the myths associated with successfully stepping outside your comfort zone.

In the myth above, the reality is the “magic” can happen both inside and outside your comfort zone. If only there was a guide.


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Let me ask you a few questions:


  • Do you feel comfortable delivering bad news?
  • Do you look forward to speaking in public?
  • Do you enjoy networking?
  • Is it easy for you to speak your mind and be assertive with friends and colleagues?

If you answered no to any of these questions, Andy Molinsky’s new book can help.

Join in on our chat below

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In today’s episode, Andy and I discuss:

  • The 5 Core Psychological Barriers we often face when trying to act outside our comfort zones
  • The inevitable pitfalls we face when we consistently avoid ever confronting our fear
  • Practices you can employ right away to help get outside your comfort zone more often
  • …and much more!  

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Andy’s Latest Book

You can order your copy of Reach: A New Strategy to Help You Step Outside Your Comfort Zone, Rise to the Challenge, and Build Confidence right now.

Andy Molinsky in Action

Books Andy (and Jeff) Recommends

You Just Don’t Understand: Women and Men in Conversation by Deborah Tannen

Difficult Conversations: How to Discuss What Matters Most by Douglas Stone, Bruce Patton and Sheila Heen

Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In by Roger Fisher and William L. Ury

Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck

Steal the Show by Michael Port

Andy’s Resources

The best place to find out more about Andy is at his website.

Here, you can pick up a copy of Andy’s new book.

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  • Great interview Jeff, very timely. I just got back from lunch with a friend from my Toastmasters club. We talked quite a bit about stepping out of our comfort zone. I need to add Andy’s book to m “To Read” list.

    • Wonderful Jon! Thanks so much for sharing that. You will not be disappointed. 🙂